WebWARNING!!!! 27 What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. Yes, believers disagree, theres nothing wrong with that. We believe that any form of homosexuality, lesbianism, bisexuality, beastiality, incest, fornication, adultery, and pornography is a sinful perversion of God's original intent for a physical relationship between a husband and wife. Apart from Him we can do nothing. 38. The Baptist Distinctives are easy to remember using the acronym B.A.P.T.I.S.T.S. I forgave and praise the lord in my life forgiveness was indeed profitable. We will never attain that on this side. I must put it in Jesus Christ. We believe that the Lord Jesus Christ was raised bodily and that He ascended to Heaven and is now exalted at the right hand of God, where, as our High Priest, He fulfills the ministry of Representative, Intercessor, and Advocate (Acts 1:9-10; Hebrews 9:24, 7:25; Romans 8:34; I John 2:1-2). [5], In 2021, the NIFB-affiliated First Works Baptist Church in El Monte, California was bombed with an improvised explosive device. I did learn a lot. No, because I have said and thought some things I regret. More insights from your Bible study - Get Started with Logos Bible Software for Free! The abuse would continue and they would be dead and their child would be in foster care. Wow! We believe that God created the entire universe in six literal, twenty-four-hour days (Genesis 1:1-27). 46. The preachers who I knew as a teenager all had real degrees in theology from acredited universities. I understand others dont like hearing God gave inspiration to the Kjv, but its true. They are already spelled out in the Bible. This list are things that are unique to the IFB. I found myself laughing at quite a few of these because they are things that I used to believe. If your pastor is a true scholar of the Bible and is on fire with eagerness to teach it, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. That makes no sense. IF you are a single Independent Fundamental Baptist where do you go to meet other single Independent Fundamental Baptists? Stil fit. We believe that the New Testament church is a local assembly of baptized believers who have voluntarily joined themselves toge therto carry out the Great Commission. We believe that the strict, literal interpretation of the Bible makes us Baptists. Also, #55 there has only been and will ever only be one perfect person. No member shall 3. He says he isnt saved but is open minded and is at least asking questions. We fellowship with sister churches of like precious faith and practice, and support missionaries sent forth by the authority of such churches. I forgave him before he changed. If your pastor preaches against smoking because it is bad for the body but is himself an obese glutton, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 25. (Genesis 2:24; Leviticus 18:1-30; Romans 1:20-32; I Corinthians 5:1; 6:9; I Thessalonians 4:l-8; Hebrews 13:4), We believe that human life begins at conception and that the unborn child is a living human being. Its pure manipulation. If your denomination knocked on their door im sure they wouldnt have gotten saved and the helped they needed. They all work together. At one point in my life I would have agreed with 45 of your 55 litmus tests, plus a few others. He perhaps worded somethings poorly perhaps, but he is completely turned off by your attitude and responses Steve. lm 8:4-9; Colossians 3:9-11). sad stuff particularly the responses from obviously brainwashed bible folks. And, I am genuinely sorry if any unbiblical or otherwise wrong IFB group, person or church, has hurt anyone here. 3 And why worry about a speck in your friends eye when you have a log in your own? 4. You can read some of the experiences here: https://baptistdeception.com/testimonials/. (Genesis 2:24; Romans 7:2; 1 Corinthians 7:10; Ephesians 5:22-23), We believe that God expressly forbids intimate sexual activity be engaged in outside of a marriage between one man and one woman. First wash the inside of the cup and the dish,[i] and then the outside will become clean, too. 2. Inspired by Jeff Foxworthys You Might Be A Redneck IfI came up with a similar list of items for the IFB. Independent Fundamental Baptists My pastor has never taught that man can forgive sins. Mind your own business. I think I find it more funny how you all think it IS funny and Im just over here secretly judging your jeans ;b, But, all teasing aside, the author and other commentators sound very bitter. I dont see how. The word fundamental simply means that we adhere to the fundamentals (basics) of the true Christian faith. Who are the Independent Baptists, and what do they believe? Same pastor who says to his congregation I love you, we all love you here.and we will not judge you. And, aside from the ones you mentioned that are truly sinful (i.e, #17, #53), and the ones that are just inaccurate (i.e, #13, #16, #35), some of these are interesting picks to end up on the list. The Pharisees were filled with hypocrisy and iniquity and my church is not. The tradition of men, human opinion, false science, religious creeds, nor popular opinion override the plain teaching of God's Word. If you believe that you can tell who the good Christians are and who the bad Christians are by looking at the fruit in their lives, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 51. I dont agree with the term, sowing discord with the brethren because I agree everything what the Bible teaches. That is contrary to Bible doctrine for a pastor. Sometimes it makes you wonder if they have EVER read/learned anything from Jesus! WebHeartland Baptist Bible College is unique. If you go to a church that sings/plays Just As I Am at the end of every service, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 21. Youre judgment of me by one blog post and its comments is typical IFB tactic. G. M. Matheny. Haha, thanks for the confirmation! When you finally get the blinders off let me know, we will rejoice with you. I understand that its hard to convey emotions when typing, but the above list does not have the feel that it was done with a spirit of love but one of condemnation. What your pastor told you is a severe twisting of scripture (if he even used scripture). The other thing is: Nowhere in the bible are we commanded to attend a regular CHURCH building and dress nice. I grew up in a baptist church and went elsewhere after college and I am learning how liberal other churches are and anything goes as long as the people are happy. Welcome to the Duggars world of Independent If I couldnt tolerate anyone saying something different I would instruct the site moderator to delete comments such as yours. On their arms they wear extra wide prayer boxes with Scripture verses inside, and they wear robes with extra long tassels. Even when the family goes on vacation, we go to church. Jesus tells us in Matthew 7:1-5: Judge not, that ye be not judged. 14. 29 For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church: 30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones. On the Arminianist view the church I go to now teaches from a biblical standpoint that salvation can still be lost. First Works had previously been the site of protests by activists opposed to its anti-LGBTQ teachings, but police reported there was no evidence linking the protesters to the bombing. But, all teasing aside, the author and other commentators sound very bitter and unhappy so I honestly feel badly for you. Biblical Reform School Discipline: Tough Love or Abuse? 7 They love to receive respectful greetings as they walk in the marketplaces, and to be called Rabbi.. 5. That is the only sin that cannot be forgiven. If your not getting a lot out of your bible read I would recommend a switch to Kjv and to define any word you dont know Slow down reading and meditate on what your reading , The KJV isnt the inspired word of God. Thousands of people, including myself, beg to differ. If you pray using KJV language (thee, though, ye, etc. WebSecond, it is Fundamental. I believe being separate is doing what God has commanded you to do. Id have more time to minister to the lost if I didnt have to work to repair the damage done by the IFB. All Catholics will not go to heaven is absolutely wrong. If you believe that declining to spank your child is the equivalent to spoiling him/her, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 31. I talk to her about my faith she talks to me about her faith. 7. Every child of God has equal access to their Heavenly Father. Thank God for grace! Do I believe he punishes no, because Ive gone without tithing and had no awareness of punishment, but when I do tithe I find blessing of increase in physical and spiritual goods. Freedom of choice demands personal responsibility. Jesus died for all, and if God is willing to forgive me because Jesus died for me than I will forgive another because Jesus died for them too. Baptist Churches Since 1975 Are From the Ministry of a Man of Whom it Has Been Said: You are probably the most childish acting preacher I lied just to get government support saying My child and I live alone. Reading any other version outside of the King James Version is sin same concern as I mentioned topic 1 It didnt raise red flags for me. THE LAST THINGS 1. Thats The Holy Spirit speaking to me. Thats sweet. Thanks for being thankful for the grace God has giving us. I did read it but I still dont understand their beliefs on it.. Sin is sin and the Holy Spirit works in us to pinpoint where we need to change and this happens while we are in the word. The IFB Insidious Fundamental Baptist Church . It is awful that they put the rules and instructions of their mythology ahead of their love for Read one thing, make a judgment that Im just bitter and move on. Believers in a free society should influence government toward righteousness, but should not make an unholy alliance for control, influence, or favors. The New IFB does not consider itself to be a denomination. WHY do children that leave IFB churches hardly ever come back? We believe the Holy Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments to be the Bible, as it is in truth, the Word of God (I Thessalonians 2:13). Jesus will save you if you believe in your heart that he was raised from the dead and admit out loud that Jesus is your lord. Israel was the prodical.. judah is the elder son that was jealous of israel.. Study The prodigal son and the two houses of Israel. 2. Tattoos are the marks of the Devil I really dont know if they are marks of the devil but I do agree that tattoos are sinful even if its against the Old Testament. People that are lost cant do what God has commanded because of unbelief. We believe in the natural divisions of Scriptures as a basis for study. Laws Like I said, funny post, but a bit judgmental as well. WebWOL's Directory of Independent Baptist Churches; Independent Baptist Churches. If you (like Jason) come to this site to criticize sarcasm by hypocritically using sarcasm, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. If your pastor refuses to be called Reverend, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. Jesus forgives and loves and he also needs to be honored is all respects. As of 2019, the New IFB listed 32 affiliated co Everyone has sent in their life. Despite having overcome drug addiction, trouble controlling my drinking, and a whole lot of other issues, my church never told me to leave, never told me to come back when I was better, never scolded me. God Bless. Oh yes, and he forgot the most important, essential factorrelated to KJV reliancevirtual ignorance of and illiteracy in biblical Hebrew and Greek!!!!!!!! I like door knocking is any of our church compelled to do so? Then you have churches with no standards . Yes, see my answer to your first question. Fellowship, guidance, and encouragement of the local church family are essential for believers to maintain an unwavering testimony and a meaningful life of service. Hypocrites! Besides I dont understand why you shouldnt listen to Contemporary Christian music. You can be saved and live however, but there will be consequences the saddest consequence of this behavior is your relationship with God will be Hindered greatly or little. We cant save people, only God can. I prefer Kjv! If you believe that women are inferior to men and are to be submissive to their husbands, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. Dont throw your pearls to pigs! Independent Baptist - RationalWiki The Bible gives qualifications for each office. Baptists do not believe that baptism brings salvation, but rather it is the answer of a good conscience toward God. If this method were a stock, who would invest in it with such a low return. 7. Independent Fundamental Baptist Thanks. Abortion is murder. An independent Baptist Missionary (24 years in Romania) has posted a site The Laymans Biblical Handbook. More than 200 doctrines at http://www.thelaymansbiblicalhandbook.com/ at people who raise their hands during worship music you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 34. *gasp* Just kidding, just kiddingwe at least look for Baptist on the sign so were good . People are more willing to change their ways when confronted in love rather then with criticism and bitterness. I dont have to try and understand it, I already know it. 22. We believe that the clear message of salvation is repentance toward God and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ (Acts 20:21). 48. If you consider it worldly and almost frightening if someone brings a different version of the Bible to church, and wonder what your Pastor would say if he knew, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. If one gives because they are forced, or constrained TO GIVE, that giving does not come from the heart, and God does not honor that kind of giving. If you see buses full of kids of all ethnicities and backgrounds coming to worship together, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. Thats not unique to the IFB. The establishment and continuance of local churches is clearly taught and defined in te New Testa ment Scriptures (Acts 14:27; 20:17, 28-32; I Timothy 3:1-13; Titus 1:5-11). You got me I am an IFB college grad. While God hates divorce, but we should help those who are divorce so they can grow spiritually. I have an old high school friend here with me who started visiting churches. N/A 28. You would probably also classify the God of the Old Testament as abusive. They are shared in my article about tithing: https://baptistdeception.com/tithing/. The list is quite helpful just in case one is wondering if theyre living through the motions or not though, but some things are definitely unbiblical to do whether youre IFB or not. Baptists believe the Bible and strive to live according to its teaching. 39. 2. My birth mother is a Catholic she didnt raise me. I dont believe the IFB church I go to has ulterior motives, but I havent been to any other church to apply that to all IFB churches. If you believe that secular psychology is worldly/sinful, but dont think that other areas of medicine are OK, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 45. Baptist The thing is, its so insidious, you dont really realize its happening until youre firmly entrenched. How come many Americans havent heard of the Independent Fundamental Baptist church movement? Hypocrites! WebOur Mission. Wherever there are people, there is sin. I thought youd like that. 4 How can you think of saying to your friend, Let me help you get rid of that speck in your eye, when you cant see past the log in your own eye? 25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; 26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word. We believe that man was created in the image and likeness of God, but that in Adam's sin the race fell, inherited a sinful nature, and became alienated from God; and therefore man is totally depraved, and, of himself, utterly unable to remedy his lost conditin (Genesis 1: 26- 27; Romans 3: 2 2-23; Ephesians 2 : 1-3, 12). If youve been taught that robbing God (not giving 10% of gross income) is the special, one specific sin that will cause God to lift all protection of your life and allow satan FULL LIBERTY to destroy you. We believe the Blessed Hope of our Lord's return is literal, personal, visible, imminent, premillennial, and pretribulational. If that is the case, you might as well go out and live like hell, because you are not interested in what God says anyway. Only a person who has embraced the Savior in fa Continue Reading 4 AbdulQadir Salati Yes but this is my concern about the IFB beliefs and I understand this was written to make it funny. I think its easy to look at the pastor as an authority figure, someone who holds some position above you, but most of them just want that connection with you, they care, they love you, they just want whats best for you. We only care when we see new faces in the church, whether guests or new members. The Lord is doing His work in ths world through local churches. Besides saying that those who practice any of these that arent saved is wrong because that is judging. 37. I can be more specific and categorize your list of 55 things to give some examples as you asked OGrodnik to do, but it wouldnt be to diminish what you and others have experienced. This Bible is preserved for the English speaking world without error in the King James Version. 53. Good point Steve! It is the Divine Revelation of God to man and is the complete and infallible guide to faith and life. I forgot to mention my concerns on some of the other beliefs of the Independent Fundamental Baptist Church: I already know where the IFB is coming from, I was indoctrinated in their dogma for 25 years. You obviously didnt read the entire list see number 47. Scripture is Good! Remember when Jesus rebuked the Pharisees? Yes, we have a tract rack. I was taught that. This is an independent fundamental Baptist program that has chapters in churches all across the country. All people need to do is humbly ask for one. That may mean dressing appropriately and not dis honoring your body because its a holy temple. Like I said, Im doing repair work. Many of these, yes are extreme, be we also need to not be compromising in some areas. If you should cut your vacation short you should never miss church this has happened only once in my life when I went I was on my senior class trip. While I am not against crucifixes but using them in public worship is idolatry because the bible forbids idols. I aint got any place to judge anyone because in all honesty i have messed up in life a lot. are the result of sin and poor choices, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 46. They have distinct responsibilities and operations. I personally fall under Southern Missionary Baptist, and literally had questions in regards to my recent visits at an IFB church. Anyway, Im sorry that you had a bad experience at an IFB church, but that doesnt excuse you for mocking Biblical beliefs. (Genesis 2:24; Genesis 19:5, 13; Genesis 26:8-9; Leviticus 18:1-30; Romans 1:26-29; 1 Corinthians 5:1, 6:9; 1 Thessalonians 4:1-8; Hebrews 13:4). Sermon Outlines The Bible-Believing Fundamentalist Baptists as a whole, are pretty terrible. (Acts 20:7, Hebrews 10:24-25). We believe in verbal, plenary inspiration in the original writings, and God's preservation of His pure words to every generation (II Timothy 3:16, Psalms 12:6-8). Independent Fundamentalist Baptists are a creepy, For you are careful to tithe even the tiniest income from your herb gardens, but you ignore the more important aspects of the lawjustice, mercy, and faith. 13 What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. The explosion caused property damage but no injuries or deaths. Believing that going to the movies is sinful but not renting them or watching them on TV I dont see anything wrong about going to the movies because I went to the movies years ago. If your church funnels in inner city kids via a bus ministry, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 24. I dont think its as bad as all this, but thats my 2 cents and maybe Im still on the inside.. Forgiving someone has nothing to do with whether or not you believe that Jesus died for their sins. 6 And they love to sit at the head table at banquets and in the seats of honor in the synagogues. Many of those things actually do go on at IFB churches, but several of those things are Biblical. THE PARABLE IS NOT A GUIDE NOR DID JESUS SAY THAT ITS A MAP ON HOW TO DEAL with a wayward child!! If you believe that stateaccreditationfor a college is bad because it means that the government dictates what that college can/does teach,you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 30. What an extensive list. But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. 13. The pastors name is Kevin Draganac. Im not responsible for how its perceived. [14], Tarrant County, Texas preacher Dillon Awes attracted considerable controversy for advocating that "every single homosexual" in America be lined up against a wall and shot in the back of the head. Hypocrites! Read Matthew 23 for more information. What if it had been biting you for 5, 10, 15, or (in my case) 25 years and you managed to finally escape would you go back or send a love one to pet it? Many of these are down right untruthful . I do agree that any time when you have health issues its because of sin which is why God allows pain and suffering.