You have to turn blind eyes to the very world around you, and how ugly it is. They were given based on what you pledged/gave. Revelation 20:6. Pastor Bob had suddenly resigned, the assistant pastor told the stunned crowd. So you are surely Martin Luthers disciple. Sharon is still a strong and encouraging leader for her firefighting unit despite the sadness of losing her daughter in a car accident involving her son Bode. True spirituality is to be able to live with unanswered questions, dear Lorenzo. And much of that strength came from the wondrous friends and counselors he put in my path such as Michael, your support and the support of so many on PP. This will harden them somewhat but it will pass and they will be better for it. Because, they know where you got your doctrine, and they know going in, all the errors and twists of interpretation. Everybody sins. , ; - , - . The best article Ive read on the subject thus far! Had not thought of that. Can you say Jimmy Swaggart? Now you complain about being put into a box. It is plain as day but these are the same folks who bring us blood moons, 1,000 yr earthly Jesus reigns raptures etc.. , Macarthur being grossly misrepresented? Can you please point me to the confession of these women? "We are not led by a board of elders.". At least youre good for keeping a thread alive, thats got to be worth something in the next life. Given the opportunity of beautiful young women throwing themselves at at men, 99.9 percent of men would fall. Just so you know 80% of the Church worldwide holds this position except in American Pop Evangelicalism. These pastors are lifted up and deified and made into celebrities, so then it becomes Bob Coys church Raul Riess church Greg Lauries church instead of the Church of Jesus Christ, and when these men fall the little gods we had erected fall and then we can hear God say, I am God and I am still on the throne!. Sure would make the shame easier to bear. what is your real motives for this? I especially loved Pastor Bobs teaching. You will have new people to blame for the fact that your pastor couldnt keep his pants on. Hence, 3 1/2 years of tribulation. That needs to stop and maybe this will be the watershed moment for that to happen. Im not accusing, Im reporting. 15 It is true that some preach Christ out of envy and rivalry, but others out of goodwill. Failings that are evidence of deep and chronic character flaws by their nature require a different kind of remediation. What about their families? Please click here to learn how. Can you show me where I have expressed a uniquely Luther position? If he is not happy with the wife, divorce her first and then if you want to go spread your seed, go ahead. What sin are you guilty off?????? Bobs a decent guy who did a ton of good world wide lets look at that as well. oh yes garbage. I never liked him .he was a smooth talker actor on stage and the bigger he became the bigger and cockier he became. Let the people who preach the forgiveness of sins demonstrate the message. Sad, very sad because this affects many congregations, not just FTL. No, we give first aid and rehab, knowing full well that all of us have faced the same arrows. You are a funny guy 1st you quote to me Jamieson, Fausset & Brown, and then you tell me you JUST READ THE BIBLE which is it. Coy will have to pay for that at the judgment. They told me about some others they knew who were part of the less prestigious meals. I am obviously perfectly aware of what I quoted and what you quoted as the posts show. Again, shout it to the masses when its other peoples sins like gay marriage etcor make assistant pastors go before the church and confess (Bob Grenier did that stuff)but grace and mercy and lets give the family their privacy etc when its the Senior Pastors turn to face the music. I hope his family and wife learn to love and trust again. And then others might go in the other direction. why did your wife divorce you, were you unfaithful? CP reached out to Calvary Chapel for further comment but no response was received by press time. Some are called to a higher level and accountability, and how much more do they need our prayer and support? One of the women confided in her friend, and her friend confessed to another high profile pastor in the area that had a friendship with Coy. Were the same sinners as before. Lets you and I join in prayer along with all the others that are doing the same thing for Pastor Bob and pray that The Lord will deliver him from this horrible thing. Coy also claimed that he passed a polygraph test to prove his innocence. You are stalling. . Anonymous #564. Fact. How can we middle aged women compete with an image of a physically perfect 25 year old? Thank you for posting such a powerful and healing message. I know the solution is to get right with many people that were hurt. Mary! Pastor Bob will be focusing his full attention on his personal relationship with God and with his family. thou shalt not have moral failure with thy church women who arent thy wife, thus sayeth The Lord! Have you ever had a hairball? As one who lives here in S.FL, there is nothing in the news about this. 13 The envy also of Ephraim shall depart, and they that harass Judah shall be cut off; Ephraim shall not envy Judah, and Judah shall not vex Ephraim. Coy has to accept the consequences for his sin, as do we all, and certainly has put himself in this position and opened himself up to the public discussion about what should be his and his familys personal business.but thats not the point! I think they had about 10 so far. CC will be ok, they will experience a separation of the wheat from the chaff which is healthy the sad part is there will be a number that like Peter will go back fishing but even they will not be lost if their heart truly is the Lords. My children very young at the time and all of this confused them. As a doctrine, it leads people to follow the antichrist who comes to unite the worlds belief systems. Were not going to speculate on the blogs right now, he said. I listened to the message at calvary today. I just want to be clear to many of the old timers here. But two weeks after his surprise resignation, Assistant Pastor Chet Lowe filled Coy's followers in on what had happened. I thought it strange not to hear his signature cartoon voices coming over the clock radio in the morning until my daughter told me today what had happened. So if one is in agreement with the end time position of CCFL, they would not want to sit under Tullians teachings. well then go ahead by all means please cast the first stone. Right now I agree that the church in Florida needs to rally around Bobs wife and children while at the same time taking necessary steps in church discipline towards Bob that he would overcome these sins and salvage his marriage and the relationships with his children if thats still possible. Ill let the heavy hitters take the rest of the shift. It was masterful manipulation off the main issue. Ok Michael, let me get through the weekend. "If Calvary gives these pastors this much authority and they use and abuse it with no accountability, they have to blame themselves.". Your response is the first Ive read that seems to hold some hope that I may in fact continue reading this thread. "If you're angry or you're disillusioned or you're fearful, if you embarrass yourself or you disappoint yourself he can take all the mess and turn it into something beautiful.". well is that what you did? If anything, this week, this place, has attempted to bring some good, some lessons, some encouragement, and some healing to those caught in that wreckage, and I include myself in that group. the church sits on the new Mcnab which is an extension of Cypress Creek Road people confuse the two all the time. BD, how can you say youre not a Calvinist and yet stand idly by while they pervert the scriptures and negate the truth and promises of God, sounds like youve been brainwashed by 600 years of lies! We have confirmed that Coy has admitted to at least two affairs in the past year alone and has had a long standing problem with pornography, wrote blogger Michael Newnham. So pray for those left in the wake that HE made. 5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the THOUSAND YEARS were finished. Loss off place in church culture. KMOA. His board are all obviously morons. Carry on. Bad part is that I had to sit quiet because there is no evidence. I never missed a weekday or weekend service. I craved the emotional and physical support I wasnt getting. The sexual assault claims, which have never before been divulged, raise new questions about the pastor, his church, and the police who handled the case. He found work as the entertainment director at the Jolly Trolley, a storefront casino and strip club, where he said he wasted away his early 20s in a haze of sex, coke, and alcohol. As spring breakers poured into Fort Lauderdale to bong beers, he set up "The Recovery Room" at the Jolly Roger motel, where he offered live music, first aid, and of course Evangelical literature. My Prayers and heart go to Bob Coy and his family. Id think the body of Christ would be the most transparent of all bloggers! So after some unspecified "very embarrassing behavior," Capitol fired him. We had to depend on recommended books and the Lord.and blogs like this. [9] Yes or no. Even her real son couldnt muster any rage. Mary! Blessings. As someone who has been a casualty of infidelity, such candor and humility helps to answer some of my own long unhealed hurts from that time. If a Pastor is sinning in his personal life, how can I have confidence in what he says from the pulpit? We have been waiting for him to make things right. . May I test you on this? That is so true. Do you think God is happy with Newnham right now? Sure glad its over. ), and the Christians will take over all the positions of government and usher in the return of Christ, and heres the kicker, all the prophecies have already taken place, 666 on the forehead or right hand is symbolic tooWow so much I missed because according to the preterist the prophecy of the Euphrates river drying up and a 200 million men army and the giants of the east being woken up and islands sinking into the ocean and 70 pound boulders falling from heaven, in a tribulation period never before experienced in the history of man, and all the plagues of revelation, all that has already taken place, yes folks back in 70 AD when Nero, who by the way was the Antichrist, sacked Jerusalem, gee I guess he had all the power of Satan, and the false prophet, well well have to spiritualize that one too. He can't be put in a position of power ever again," Newnham stressed. come now and get real it is plain as day, that if you really read the Bible with all your heart you would know that the mark of the beast is a bar code stamped on your forehead. This blog had nothing to report except for what some very connected church leaders gave the writer to report. 7. No there are not. Here we are, with sicknesses, war, hate, famine, destruction world wide. PS Connie and Ashleigh (Pastors Gregs wife) have been afflicted with cancer I will ask you all to hold them in prayer this month please. Many evangelicals get saved and still do the same sins as before or trade them in for worse sins. Look Jesus does speak of his return very clearly in Matt 25, the 2nd half about the sheep and the goats 1.) Im in good standing with my church and those Im accountable to. Your cognitive dissonance is kicking in. I showed you that nothing in the passage is literal which would include the 1,000 yrs and you defaulted to the chains are real. Lets talk about how 1,000 is used in scriture Jesus owns the cattle on a 1,000 hills literal or figurative (figurative is the answer or, who owns the cattle on hill #1,001?) "They have been at war ever since.". The Acts 2 passage has everything to do with why you misinterpret Rev 20 to be Jesus sitting on Davids throne as a future event when Peter said it was a present event. I attribute you and/or the blog here whenever I write about something that you broke, its just how its supposed to be done. With MLD leading the way with his self righteous smug attitude! , Matthew 24:15 when you see standing in the holy place the abomination that causes desolation,[a] spoken of through the prophet Daniellet the reader understand. I hadnt heard of any in my 30 years attending CC starting with CCCM in 1976 when I came to Christ. he told everyone that if they left because he left You are lost! Not one of us is perfect, which is why we are to put our faith in the Lord, not in man. If youre so incredibly stupid as to think Id print something that inflammatory without proof, I really cant help you. So how many women have you used and discarded to satisfy your lust? Thanks for sharing that Laura. Jesus denied he was setting up a kingdom on earth and somehow you insist he was mistaken and that he actually is you have the place, Jerusalem and you have the time period, 1,000 yrs. Bob isnt. Wow, Michael does have some standards, so thats what it takes, not gossip and slander and outright fabrications, but some foul language to wrap up the crap thats being dished out here! We are all vulnerable and weak!! He resigned because he had no choice. Leadership made every effort to let the staff and church hear directly from leadership rather than rumor by calling meetings for Sunday, our source, who asked not to be identified, told us. I was thinking bull, too, just without the china-shop analogy.. Re: moral failings They do not expound because they do not WANT to expound. Im Glad God is in charge and not most Christians. When he went back to CCFL by then many family members from another state arrived and had jobs waiting for them at CCFL. God credits His righteousness to those who put their faith in Christ alone for their salvation, thereby justifying them in His sight. Megachurch Pastor Bob Coy abruptly resigned Sunday afternoon, ending his 30-year leadership at one of the largest churches in the country. At Smith's church, "you could come in jeans, and it didn't matter what your hair looked like or how long your beard was," says Thumma, the Hartford professor. The best counsel I received was to keep my eyes on Jesus and off of man. The consequences suffered by the fallen leader will be very instrumental to how the sheep, who are in this flock, respond when faced with their own similar temptations. It's still not clear how Coy's sexual indiscretions came to light in 2014. They too should hear, hey, we all sin, we all slip up. When we objectify we act as gods. Man is capable of all sorts of evil even saved 2. Hugh. Just answer the question! THIS IS DISGUSTING and not of God. You are correct. That is a myth that needs to be wiped out. A Calvinist sniffing for sin and pointing the finger at those who have been successful with a different paradigm, and relishing in the fall of those who do not hold his view, seems to be very suspect and stinks of ulterior motives. So Hugh, I think you and others twist scriptures right out of Jesus mouth to make a Hal Lindsey / Chuck Missler / Tim LaHaye point. Id wager something huge that Bob is not who they all think he is. Do you REALLY think that the shame would be easier to bear? "I can't discuss it on the record," the former pastor, who managed a casino with exotic dancers in Las Vegas before committing his life to Christ, said when approached in October. In 2006, Coy's church in Fort Lauderdale landed in court over claims of lax oversight. So my position is one of total sympathy for Diane and the kids.and I find myself frankly in the conflicted position due to personal experience of being totally pissed at Bob for his selfish actions, and at the same time praying for his relationship to be someday restored with first our Lord, and Diane, and his tragically innocent children.
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